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JayDaDon24  •  3 months ago

Rachaad white or Isiah Pacheco?

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

It’s close. I do believe Pacheco will benefit from a more efficient Chiefs offense as they try to balance the touch load and possibly run more by getting early leads. But White is going to see better running lanes with Tampas investment in the interior offensive line and his usage should be at the top of the rb position.

Rmims33 3 months ago

Pach

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

@jimmikmik I never said Whites efficiency is why you draft him. I believe his YPC can do nothing but go up with the changes to the line and Liam Cohen bringing the offense to Tampa that was built around Gurley. Even with his inefficient YPC with what you stated he was much more valuable last season than Pacheco for fantasy purposes. Standard league. Pacheco. Ppr toss-up.

jimmikmik 3 months ago

White could actually lose some passing work to Bucky. End of the day he has added competition. In KC, chiefs let McKinnon walk and brought in nobody. If anything we’re also seeing increased competition for white and decreased for Pacheco. Receiving work is probably similar between them, and Pacheco has the advantage on the ground by a lot

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

@jimmikmik I guess no matter what I say you will be the contrarian in this thread. Tampa Bay and Cohen had the opportunity draft Ray Davis who he made into a very effective rb that profiles similar to White. They passed. Irving is a gadget 10 touch or less guy. Every rb has a backup. Irving is whites if he can beat out Edmonds. And I agree White might lose some touches this season but not in the pass game work. That’s his elite trait. Why would you as a play caller take that away? 20 more receptions for 300 more yards than Pacheco.

jimmikmik 3 months ago

Pacheco also missed 3 games, so he had more receiving work partially because he had more games played

ZingMaster 3 months ago

Pacheco @JayDaDon24

jimmikmik 3 months ago

And again, Bucky is the new #2. I never implied he’d overtake White

jimmikmik 3 months ago

And Bucky is a legit pass catcher

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

@jimmikmik I think I mentioned they went with Bucky over Davis.

jimmikmik 3 months ago

White was an absolute workhorse because they had literally nobody else, now they have Bucky

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

I get it you prefer Pacheco.

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jimmikmik 3 months ago

They got the guy they want to play complementary football to White

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

Same could be said about Pacheco. Kelce missed time and all they had was Rashee.

jimmikmik 3 months ago

Added WR competition isn’t added RB competition lmao

jimmikmik 3 months ago

You think Worthy is gonna take snaps away from Pacheco? Lol

jimmikmik 3 months ago

The only reason white was great for fantasy was because he was the unquestioned workhorse. And now they go get a solid pass catching rb to bring in to take some work off of him, where they do the opposite in KC and are looking like they’ll use Pacheco even more

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

@jimmikmik I was referring to you saying that was all they had. I think Tampas wrs are superior to The chiefs this season last season. Pacheco had to compete with the same caliber player in McKinnon as white did with Edmonds. Mckinnon was injured. Which made Pacheco Defacto workhorse. Unless I am watching wrong season.

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

@jimmikmik if you had White and were going to pursue Pacheco how much would you add to White to get Pacheco? What’s the value difference?

jimmikmik 3 months ago

And actually, in the 4 games McKinnon missed, Pacheco averaged 4.75 receptions per game. That’s an 81 reception pace for the full season which greatly outpaced White

jimmikmik 3 months ago

@OldeManStrength

jimmikmik 3 months ago

So I mean if we want to talk about receiving work, based on that small sample Pacheco has the clear higher ceiling

jimmikmik 3 months ago

And again, White has added backfield competition and will likely lose some snaps and work

OldeManStrength 3 months ago

@jimmikmik what’s the value difference? For the OP I think he wants to know. I said it’s pretty close. You said Pacheco easily. How much does Easily cost?

tbocrj  •  3 minutes ago

Debating who to start in flex; Currently have Kamara (questionable) .5ppr Ford Shakir BTJ Thoughts?

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Grak  •  5 minutes ago

Kmet or Conklin ? .5 ppr

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PISSEDHORNED  •  15 minutes ago

Start Two: Pickens, Reed, Addison, Meyers

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gjn27  •  29 minutes ago

In a 10 team 1/2 point PPR, would you trade Rhamondre for Amari Cooper? My Team: QB-Mahomes RB-Bijan, Achane, Mostert, Ford, Braelon Allen, Swift WR-Jayden Reed, Deebo, Zay, Dell, Devonta Smith, Tre Tucker TE-Bowers

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tylorhaha  •  31 minutes ago

Start Kelce or Bowers?

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BSHU07  •  33 minutes ago

Who should I bench this week? 4 spots, 5 players .5 ppr need to bench 1 of these guys. Flowers (Bills) Pickens (Colts) Jameson Williams (Seattle) G Wilson(Broncos) D London(Saints) I already had Nabers play, so have 2 WRs/2 Flex spots to play and need to bench one of these 5 guys. I’ve been mostly going back and forth between benching J Williams, Pickens or Flowers. Also am considering Wilson as a motivation tactic to get him going😂

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headhigh55  •  42 minutes ago

Pick up Hunt or Kendre Miller?

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DMoneyyy  •  47 minutes ago

Full PPR 14 Man who you taking? A. Aiyuk, Likely B. Godwin