Who wins this ppr dynasty trade? A) Saquan Barkley Or B) Josh Downs, a 2027 1st and a 2025 2.02

So you think that someone will cave and pay when they are trying to set themselves apart at the end of the season? At what point do you say that you have waited too long?

I know that no one in my league would pay 3 1sts, but that seems to be the value that you guys have him at.

What’s being offered here, to me, is essentially 2 current 2nds and a 3rd. Do you think that’s Barkley’s value?

Yeah I think that’s sound logic, just feels like there is a point where you are leveon bell holding out for a contract and then you burn yourself

Also I very much value getting the 1.01 of the ‘26 draft.. i view it as a very top heavy class, and the longer into the season you hold your assets, the more difficult it will be to tank.

I have always been willing to lose value on a player to get out ahead of my league to make sure that a deal gets done. Like a guy in my league this past year waited till the deadline and all the contenders had already made moves. So the demand was gone, I think that would be worse than not getting full value for a player.

I’ve actually done some calculations on this using similar equations to how people invest in rl. The end result is a roughly 6-10 pick drop in value per year. Where in that range depends on some qualitative variables. Like, for instance, a first would be around 7-8 because it has a high floor and is guaranteed to at least have a certain amount of value. How you value 27 draft might be another variable to account for. Being able to reasonably project where that lock will be may impact it as well (or at least impact where you devalue it from). Things like that

Yeah I see your point. So how would the OP offer need to be chanced for you to move Barkley?

It is a bit low, and we are very early

Logic for me just assumed that this player is stuck in limbo and has 0 leverage, so losing value is unavoidable if the entire league also recognizes that

My league is full of sickos and negations are intense. So that bias is coming through with my original answer

I use current draft cap to define all players and future prospects. Not because I think it perfectly embodies the assets, but because it gives me an objective currency that I can link all assets to to allow me to compare apples to apples

In fact, this topic right here is entirely why I even come to these forums

Bastards will even get in the group chat and lobby for the idea that for example the team moving Barkley has no choice but to do so.

That’s why patience is necessary

That’s where time-dependent fluctuations come into play

It’s also why vets are easier to sell right before the season or early in the season, because people take off their long term planning cap and start looking to win

Yeah it’s certainly a fine line.. cause as I stated before, say you upgrade that 2nd to a mid 1st…but you don’t get the trade done until week 9-10. Not moving Barkley likely made your ‘26 pick several spots worse… so did you really upgrade that early 2nd to a mid 1st? The actual value in waiting isn’t necessarily reflected fully in the trade

Ok, yeah I’m with that. Waiting till the start of the season would definitely be wise

The one asset you have in a rebuild, more than anything or anyone else, is time. Time is your friend in a rebuild. So if you’re impatient, rebuilds will not be your thing

Time is NOT a luxury that competitors have

That was some good insight. I’m thankfully close to the end of my rebuild simultaneously in both my dynasty leagues, so I’m locked in this season. Can’t talk enough about football and fantasy.

@TimeJew let me give you an example of how I would approach Barkley if I have him and I believe I am in a rebuild (which I’m in a lot more than most, because I only have two modes…I’m either a favorite, or I’m rebuilding). I would first decide what I need to roughly get for him (defined in current picks). Then I’d start shopping him around to see if I can get that, but more importantly, to see what my other league mates are going to try and lowball me with (and they will do exactly that). Based on knowing what they’re offering, I can reasonably determine exactly when someone is going to cave and I can probably even predict who it will be. Then I just shut up and wait. The current draft will roll by and I’ll likely get slightly higher offers trying to lure me away from my price tag with the chance to play against my FOMO in this draft. If the value is there, great. If not, I politely decline. Then I wait, and I wait, and I wait. If I get to that point where I predicted someone will cave, I’ll float a non offer around, simply reminding people that I have Barkley and gauging interest. Then I wait (at this point, I’m genuinely surprised if I don’t have an acceptable offer within a week). If I don’t get an offer (with the assumption that now the season is approaching), now is when I decide my drop-dead date (which is usually a week or two before the trade deadline). Then I wait into the season. After week 2, I’ll send another non-offer around and start looking at the teams who have a chance, but need something. I’ll do this every few weeks and get more aggressive as the deadline approaches. All the while weighing my wins vs diminishing value (which secretly adjusts my acceptable price).