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Livi  •  4 years ago
offseason

“Former XFL QB Jordan Ta'amu is signing with the #Chiefs, per agent @kenny_zuckerman.”

Grandes 4 years ago

I mean I’m not wrong! But yeah I also see your point which is that mainstream America does care about the superstar athletes, and if your league doesn’t have them it won’t ever match up with the NFL..

Bren1117 4 years ago

@Shayner excellent analysis there. "wElL yOu WrOnG"

Shayner 4 years ago

I can’t attach the links here, but just google how much the NCAA gets for their tv rights and how much the XFL gets for their tv rights. Thats 800 million reasons why the NCAA will last and why the XFL wont.

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Grandes 4 years ago

In a world where major league lacrosse has existed for 20 years, why can’t this football league?

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Bren1117 4 years ago

@Shayner refuted why that irrelevant in my previous comment. Learn to read.

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Grandes 4 years ago

XFL could ultimately make $50 million a year and be successful enough with that

Shayner 4 years ago

Thats my point. Attendance will never get to the point where they will get money for their league to be on TV as a paid entity. TV ratings went down every week this XFL season. Look it up. You just assume it’ll be successful? It isn’t and it won’t be. Take a look at how much major league lacrosse plays their players and coaches compared to the XFL. The reason it can survive is because they pay their players nothing and they have little overhead. The XFL pays their players and coaches too much. They can't keep this up for more than three years.

Bren1117 4 years ago

Fair, but their ratings were consistently waaay higher than that of the AAF. Plus, next year they'll have better numbers with better name recognition and with their product being legitimized with actual former XFL players playing in the NFL. With any luck, Ta'amu or Walker will get a start or 2 and Parham will catch a couple TDs and people will go, oh shit, these guys are the real deal. It's not a certainty that the XFL will succeed, but it certainly has a better chance than you're giving it credit for.

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Shayner 4 years ago

It's just too much football. The reason WWE or the NLL works are because it's a different sport. There aren't more like it. By the time college and NFL football seasons are over, there just isn't enough interest. Yes, it'll do better than the AAF and they've learned from many of the AAF mistakes, but the only way they make it is if the NFL buys them out as a minor league and that won't happen. Do you have any clue how much it costs to rent an NFL or college football stadium for a day? It's crazy expensive! The business model just doesn't work. I'm not knocking the football, I'm happy for the guys who used it to get to the NFL, but that doesn't help the XFL pay their bills. I don't mean to hate on the league. I'm hating on the business model.

Bren1117 4 years ago

@Shayner fair enough, but McMahon already has 3 years of funds set aside so it'll last at least that long. Then it'll all come down to what kind of TV deals they can get, which won't be as much as the NCAA gets, but it won't have to be. Only time will tell.

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Shayner 4 years ago

I've just seen too many football leagues fail. The original XFL, the AAF and the Arena Football League (which had about three years of profitability). You're right. McMahon has $, but it's an expensive sport to play because of rent alone. I just don't think he or anyone for that matter can make it work. You're right, we won't know for a few more years.

JuJusKarmaTrain 4 years ago

Taking Mahomes job

Shayner 4 years ago

Andy will get him ready and trade him for a third or 4th round draft pick in a few years. He grooms QBs with the best of them.

Lets_Cook 4 years ago

Worth a pick up and stash in dynasty?

Shayner 4 years ago

How deep of a dynasty league are we tskking about here? I doubt it.

Lets_Cook 4 years ago

10 team. 30 player rosters 3 IR 4 Taxi

Shayner 4 years ago

I don't think so. Who is on your taxi squad now? Kyle Allen, Josh Rosen and Taysom Hill would offer more immediate dividends if they're available.

ctmurtoff 4 years ago

Finally fixed their Patrick Mahomes problem

KiMonsta 4 years ago

Who is the staff person finding these pictures?

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Johnnytorso 4 years ago

Do not trade Moore for McLauren

Laczilla 4 years ago

The NFL & AFL were failing til they got their non-profit designation in the 60s. The XFL is gonna be fine, their model is better than any league has set up. They have free local & cable broadcasting for every game for 3 yrs. They have huge advert deals, & the player contracts are very well set. Don't do too much, bring enough drama, & the game sells itself

Shayner 4 years ago

They do not have huge advertising deals! They are minimal. The goal of broadcasting games is to make money doing it, not to be able to do it for free. What about their model are you so fond of? Too much of anything is saturation. That's what the XFL is. The game hardly sells itself. Look at the attendance and the TV ratings. Outside of St Louis, they went down every week.

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Laczilla 4 years ago

The goal of broadcasting is to get your product in front of the consumer, secondary is gaining profits from the broadcasting. Fox & ESPN are footing the bill for the broadcast while holding majority of advert rights to the programming & the XFL has huge deals in place for stadium adverts & other advert deals. Almost no business makes money in its first year. It'll take time to see a leveling off, there's always a huge bump when something new shows up. We're locked in to another 2yrs, it'll interesting to see how they spin their 1st season going into the 2nd

Shayner 4 years ago

What are these huge advertising deals that you're speaking of? How do you know what their sponsors are spending? Do you have any clue how much it costs to rent and staff a stadium? You're right about broadcasting goals and having to start somewhere in addition to new businesses starting slow, but attendance and television ratings went down every week (outside of St Louis) which isn’t a good trend to set as your first year of business unfolds. It’ll be interesting to see what the next few years look like, but it appears to be trending towards another attempt at a football league that won’t make it. They really need to get better QBs too. Outside of the two who just jumped to the NFL, QB play was bad.

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